Talking Pools Podcast
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Talking Pools Podcast is the pool industry’s “pull up a chair” show—part shop talk, part field manual, part therapy session—built for people who actually live on pool decks: commercial operators, service techs, builders, facility managers, and anyone responsible for water that can’t afford to go sideways. The network was created to level up the pool industry with real-world conversations on water chemistry, filtration, troubleshooting, construction, safety, and the business side of keeping pools open and budgets intact.
Here’s the hook: it’s not theory-first. It’s experience-first—a roster of seasoned pros (with 250+ years of combined “been there, fixed that” wisdom) turning complicated problems into practical moves you can use the same day. And it’s not one voice, one vibe, one corner of the industry: it’s a network of shows designed to reflect how diverse this work really is—different regions, different specialties, different personalities.
Also worth saying out loud: women aren’t “special guests” here—they’re on the mic as hosts, from the beginning, with an intentionally balanced roster. That matters, because the best ideas in this industry don’t come from one lane—they come from the whole road.
If you want a podcast that can make you laugh and make you better at what you do—without pretending the job is easier than it is—Talking Pools is the one you queue up before the first stop, and keep on when the day starts getting weird.
Talking Pools Podcast
Andrea Unfiltered – Green Pools, Heat Stroke & Poop Soup
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This week on 🎙️ Andrea Unfiltered, Andrea delivers exactly what listeners have come to expect: chaotic honesty, pool industry reality checks, accidental nightmare fuel, and a reminder that working around water can get weird fast.
Andrea opens the episode discussing an adults-only waterpark in Texas featuring swim-up bars, lazy rivers, floating food delivery, DJs, and giant hot tubs — and explains in vivid detail why she absolutely wants no part of it. Between the thought of people never leaving the water and “lazy river snack service,” Andrea spirals into one of the funniest disgust-rants in recent memory.
The mood then shifts as Andrea discusses two tragic pool-related incidents that highlight the importance of water safety awareness and drowning prevention. One story involves a young girl in Brazil who died after becoming trapped by a pool suction system, leading Andrea into a serious discussion about hair entrapment hazards, drain safety, and the importance of teaching children to stay away from suction outlets and grates.
She also covers a bizarre and heartbreaking Florida incident where a vehicle crashed through pool fencing and struck a woman sunbathing beside a swimming pool, emphasizing how unpredictable and dangerous pool environments can become.
The main topic of the episode was inspired by a Facebook post Andrea made about a green Airbnb pool that triggered a flood of angry internet comments. Andrea explains what actually caused the pool to turn green — rain dilution, excessive fresh water additions, heat, heavy bather load, leaking water loss, pets, and inconsistent occupancy — while dismantling the myth that algae problems happen for only one reason.
From there, the episode becomes a full deep dive into how weather affects swimming pool chemistry, including:
- Chlorine demand
- UV degradation and photolysis
- Rain dilution
- Wind-blown contaminants
- Phosphate introduction
- Heat-related sanitizer loss
- Bather waste
- Splash-out and drag-out
- Animal contamination
- Commercial pool sanitation concerns
Andrea also spends significant time discussing heat exhaustion and heat stroke prevention for pool professionals working outdoors in extreme temperatures. She shares warning signs technicians should watch for, explains the seriousness of heat-related illness, and offers practical cooling and hydration advice for service techs grinding through summer routes.
Things take a hilariously horrifying turn when Andrea explains just how much fecal matter the average swimmer introduces into a pool. Using rice grains as a visual comparison, she breaks down “poop math” for hotel pools, pool parties, and crowded commercial facilities in a way listeners will never un-hear. If you’ve ever wanted to rethink your next hotel hot tub experience, this episode delivers.
Andrea closes the show discussing animals around pools, raccoon contamination, Baylisascaris roundworm concerns, chlorine response protocols, and why showering before entering a pool matters far more than most people realize.
Equal parts educational, horrifying, hilarious, and brutally honest, this episode perfectly captures why Andrea Unfiltered continues to resonate with pool professionals everywhere.
⚠️ Listener warning: You may never look at rice, hotel pools, or lazy rivers the same way again.
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Hey, what's what's up everyone? How's it going? It's the Talking Pools podcast, and I am Andrea. You're with me. We're here together and we're just gonna talk about pools because that's the name of the show. Fuck off, and I'm not using it. So if I am super in the dark, I apologize. Also, check out my hair. That's a that's a knot. I didn't that's not a hair tie. Don't ask me to tell you how I did that because I don't think I'll be able to do that again. It's like perfect it looks like ice cream anyway. Or like a bun, or like not Princess Leia buns, but definitely like stacked cinnamon buns, maybe. I don't know. Or some biscuits. So yeah, that's that's pretty much all I've got going on. Usually I try to like recap my week. Nothing super crazy. Well, I guess uh my normal boss, my normal manager, is out for quite some time. He's doing he's doing some personal stuff, so he's out. And so now I get to deal with a new. I mean, I've already I've already had, you know, I've already known this person and stuff like that, so it's not like it's new, but I'm gonna have to call him now instead of the other guy. So it'll be fun. It was my first day of it today. We'll see how the rest of the week goes. Okay, now let's get into these news stories that I pulled for everybody. I that's the dog, she's got some yak cheese. Don't ask me what that is. It's just a thing that says that on the package. I don't know if it's made from yaks for real. Well, I was just about to get into some stories. Found a couple of interesting ones. There's one that is fun, and then there's two that are not fun. So I just want to give everybody a heads up. We'll get all of our we'll get all of our fun and laughing out for the first story. All right, so here you go. This comes from College Station, Texas. And if you're already there and you already know what I'm talking about, hit me up and let me know what it's like. I'm just gonna go ahead and recommend you don't go in the water. Anyway, so this is an adults-only water park, and here's how they are selling it with a swim up bar and endless relaxation. Not for me. I'm not relaxing for one half of a second inside of that facility. I wouldn't, I don't even think I just don't like water parks in general. It's funny I was thinking about it. I used to love to go to the local water park, and I think that's where I just got a lot of the ick from. So, anyway, this place, I didn't write down what it was called. Let me click on it. I think it was called the Cave. Hold on. I don't know why I didn't write it down. Stupid of me. The Cove at Bear X is the name of it in college station. Okay, so now that we got that cleared up, this is an 18 plus facility. Access is membership base, so you don't just get any Yahoo. All the riff you don't get the riff raff. Alright, delete that. Anyway, uh, you have the swim up bar, you have the lazy river, and then trigger sorry for the I you I should trigger warning, the gagging sounds. I hate those two things. But even more fun for me is a quote, a lazy river floating food delivery. Quote, someone brings your snack right to your tube, unquote. And if that just isn't the grossest thing, well, I guess it's there's other things that could be grosser, but uh no thank you. Okay. Then we have the surf machine and surf club. We have a wakeboarding lake, and then they have a whole page dedicated to their raised hot tub with acrylic glass walls and giant TV wall, and an on-site DJ. And so they have everything that you need to never have to leave the pool. And you and I you guys who I'm talking to, you know exactly. You know exactly what that means. They're never leaving the pool, and so that is just one of the most horrendous things I've ever heard in my life. Go if you like, go if you want, you just won't find me there. That's that's fine. I'm not telling you not to go, I'm just telling you I'm not going. Alright, so our next two stories, as I said, are not fun stories at all. They're very sad, and so I will just get us through them. Um, the reason that I bring them up is because I just feel like not enough conversation happens around drowning and drowning prevention and things like that. And so I feel like the more we talk about it, maybe the more we can help, hopefully. So, anyway, this comes from Mirasol Brazil. I will just read the summary that I have here. I'm not gonna read the whole article. So a 12-year-old girl died after her hair got stuck in a pool suction system, trapping her underwater. The article did not say specifically where she was trapped, which it didn't say if it was a main drain or s or something else. And I'm gonna say her name, but I'm gonna I I feel like I might mispronounce it, so if I do, I apologize. Laura Perriera Camargo was swimming with friends in their pool when she suddenly became trapped. As per reports, the child was stuck underwater for a full five minutes. Laura died two days later after suffering multiple organ failure and complications, including bacterial pneumonia. This is why I wanted to bring up hair entrapment and kind of focus on it last week because this article or this this accident happened in the beginning of April, I believe. I'm gonna have to click on this one to make sure because for some reason I don't think of things that I will want to say until I want to say them. April 22nd. Sorry, was the date of this article, and so this happened a little bit before that. Anyway, my point that I wanted to make last week was to, and I'll reiterate it, teach everybody that you see in the pool. And it kind of like what one of the things I thought of was finding Nemo. Maybe if you compare, if you give people that as a visual, help them, you know, help help them to be conscious and stay away from the suction, not just the main drains. And you know, you can get stuck on a drain cover, a broken thing, you get stuck in there if your little fingers go in there. You can get stuck very easily in any cover, grate, anything like that. So the point is just stay away. Now, this third story is about um it's a bit of a freak accident, still very sad. So this comes from Fort Pierce, Florida. A driver loses control, crashes into the pool area, and killed a woman who was sunbathing next to the pool. Police said they believe the 38-year-old driver suffered some sort of medical episode while she was driving down the street. This actually happened within a couple of weeks ago. There's still not a lot of details released yet. She appeared, the driver appears to have lost consciousness, driven off the road, through the hedges, through the pool fencing, somehow missing the pool, and instead hitting the 65-year-old woman lying next to the pool. The car kept going, crashing through more fencing before slamming into a neighbor's home, coming to rest in one of the home's bedrooms. The 65-year-old woman was found under the vehicle. She had been killed, and the Fort Pierce Police Department later identified her as Anastasia Fiona Ullman. Neighbors say she was in town from Massachusetts visiting family. That is so tragic and like crazy. Like two, like two random things. Anyway, very, very sad. Very it could be very dangerous around pools. So I mean, watch out for cars apparently, too. I'm sorry. So let's move on to the actual thing that I wanted to talk about. Let's talk about this week's topic, which was inspired by a Facebook post I made a couple of weeks ago that kind of went insane. And my daughter makes fun of me when I say it went viral for my page or my account, but it did, like it didn't go viral in the sense that you know it I didn't get millions of, I got a few thousand views. I didn't get millions of views. But I also made a lot of people mad, and I had a lot of people in my comments saying mean things to me. And I had a I had legit questions. I had some people asking me like legitimate questions. I think my favorite was the guy who was sending me screenshots of the weather in Tampa. Like, I don't, I'm not anywhere near Tampa, my friend. Like, that's I don't know what you're so anyway. The post was an Airbnb pool that had turned green and people got so mad. As I said, I was not trying to rage bait, I really wasn't. I was just trying to like vent. So the pool, it was it's a Friday pool, and I walked up to the pool and it was green. And I wasn't really expecting it to be green because it had been okay the week before. And so it was a surprise to me. And usually when that happens, that means I have now like a lot more work to do, okay? Right? So the caption, it's pretty funny. I actually had to end up I ended up deleting like a couple hundred comments. I think it was up to almost 200 comments, and then I like restricted comments to friends only, as I do sometimes, and I actually ended up deleting, I think it was like around 75 comments. I deleted a lot. So what happened? I walked up to the pool, as I said, pool water was green, and there was a hose in the pool. Now, Airbnb pool, okay. As I said, it's a first of all, it's a painted surface. Do I need to say any more? Probably not, but and I will anyway. So painted surface. I believe it is leaking. I haven't really like made the effort to confirm it, like with chemicals. I just put a tab floater in there because I mean, she's not gonna fix the leak. You know, they're not gonna they never do. They never want to approve fixing the leak. So anyway, it's not my choice whether or not I keep the pool. You guys know this about me. I don't make those types of decisions. If the hose was in the pool, the water was on. Sounds like a Dr. Seuss, the beginning of Dr. Seuss room. I knocked on the door and it was a renter, not the homeowner. And they were like, it seemed like the pool needed water. So they put water in. I didn't say any, I was like, uh, you know, I was nice. I didn't like punch her or anything like that. People acted like on the on my post, they acted like I whatever. Anyway, I didn't. I was nice to the lady. I was just like, oh no, it's okay, I turned it off, it doesn't need any more. Thank you, thank you. And so everybody was mad that the pool was green and they were trying to the point of the post. Sorry, I I derailed myself. The point of this whole episode is because one of the things, a couple of the things that I said to several people, this was not just one person, was that several factors contributed to the pool turning green. And if you know pools and you know why they turn green and you know why they get algae, you'll know that what I'm about to say is absolutely correct. So the pool leaks, so I or loses water through evapor, whatever. Okay. Homeowner's not there, it's it's not like consistent with renters. So I have the skimmer closed. So the homeowner adding the renter adding water did not need it because nothing bad was gonna happen to the pump. I have no idea how many people have been in that pool in the whole week in between my visits. It did rain more than one time that week. It was 90 degrees, and this is where the guy from Tampa was like getting all mad and being like, oh, yes, it does. Okay, it absolutely every single thing I just said affects the water. And when you combine all of those things, guess what you get? Cook, cook, cook, cook combo, right? You get a a triple, quadruple dose of killing your chlorine, essentially, right? Whole bunch of water added cause of rain, whole bunch of water added because of this renter decided they were gonna help. Chemical loss from how many no who knows how many people, because there were children staying with them, so there were at least four people. They had dogs with them. Okay, do like seriously, do I need to go on? Yes, I do, because that's what the whole episode is about. Yay! Aren't you excited? And don't worry, because I'm gonna talk about Airbnb pools specifically next week. Next week. So get ready. Okay, now one last thing I gotta say. If the weather doesn't affect your pools at all, please tell me what it's like to have life so easy. All right, come on the show and tell me what it's like to be the pool god's favorite. If nothing affects your pools ever. I'm just rage baiting. Like I'm being like I get accused of doing it. I'm actually doing it that time. Anyway, I'm just kidding. God, sorry. So the first thing I want to talk about, and I'm gonna stick with the safety theme from last week, and I'm gonna blend the two together. Okay. So we're gonna stay safe in the heat, people. We are going, it's hot outside. There it's it's been 90 degrees for me. It was not 90 degrees for Tampa. It was less than 90 degrees, but you know, you get hot, right? You're in the sun, we are doing physical labor, we're brushing, we're lifting things. So you have heat stroke and heat exhaustion. Those are two separate things, and they are both very real conditions. It's it's not like a joke, it's not just like oh, like don't have a cow, you know, don't have a hernia, where it's like you're not actually gonna have a hernia. No, this heat stroke is you're actually having stroke, or you know, similar. Similar, similar. So, as I was saying, heat stroke, heat exhaustion, both actual, real dangerous things that you need to be careful of. And this information comes from both the CDC websites and the Mayo Clinic website websites. So heat off heat exhaustion often precedes uh heat stroke or so. Usually if you don't fix the first one, you'll end up with both. It's not funny. The signs of heat exhaustion include cool, moist skin with goosebumps, heavy sweating, faintness, dizziness, fatigue, rapid pulse, headache, shortness of breath, weakness, muscle cramps, and nausea. These are, you know, shortness of breath, weakness, nausea. Faintness, if you fall over into the pool, buddy, you know, that happened to somebody recently. So this is why it's like super extra something to be cautious of. Heat exhaustion can lead to heat stroke without treatment. I'm kind of getting air hunger thinking about it. Oh my god. Don't I'll explain what air hunger is if you want me to. I'm not gonna go into that. Anyway, heat exhaustion can lead to heat stroke without treatment. Heat stroke is a life-threatening condition. Left untreated, it can cause brain, heart, kidney, and muscle damage. All of them, one or the other, two out of three, you know, whatever. Those are all bad. The damage worsens the longer the treatment is delayed. So it's not really gonna just like go away. We're talking heat stroke, heat exhaustion. If you start to get the symptom, we'll get there. Symptoms of heat stroke include nausea, vomiting, the temperature over 104 degrees Fahrenheit. I didn't look up the Celsius. I'm sorry. Confusion, disorientation, all of those things. So if you are having heat stroke, please stop what you're doing. Call 911, get some help, have someone help you. Seriously, you need to sit down, seek shade, get out of the sun if that's where you're at. And then this is pretty important from the CDC website. It says to not drink anything. I don't if there's like a health professional listening, maybe you can explain why that is the case. It seems like your first instinct would be to well, because you're supposed to cool yourself down, right? Or cool the person down if you come upon the person suffering from heat stroke or heat exhaustion. You have to help them cool down as quickly as possible for heat stroke. For heat exhaustion, drink, hydrate, fan yourself, get all of these things. Call 911 if you're doing the heat stroke, all right? As I said, it's very serious. We need to stay safe too. All right, so sun protection. I'll go through this kind of quickly. I'm just kind of talk fast. So we should all know this already, right? You want a hat, you want the wide brim type, not just like a baseball cap, because you want it to protect your neck and your ears and your nose and all of that stuff. You can get those gator neck gator things or ball balakalava things. I said that like an idiot. I'm sorry. You have your options of fans. You have I don't have it here with me, but when I went to Welcome to Rockville, I bought those rave fans, and I've been bringing mine to work. I didn't bring the one with mushrooms on it, though I brought the other one, the little bit more neutral. You want cooling cooling towels are great. The USB fans, I think I said fans, but the handheld like USB fans, neck fans, all of that, those are great. Just make sure you charge them, and even if you fall in the pool with them, I'm sure you'll be fine. You're not gonna die unless you have passed out from heat stroke. Then you need to get away from the pool. I told you. Back to the sun care. You have aloe lotions after sun care products are great. Those are all good for the skin to help with sunburn if you get it. Move to a shaded area for a few minutes. If you're brushing and you are vacuuming and you're standing in the sun and you are exerting yourself, and you start to get what I call the want want, want wants, and you're like, it's like your head throbs, and it's like, go to the shade. Go stand under the soffit of the house, find a tree, find a fucking bush. I don't know. Just get out of there, all right? I care about you. I used to actually have a I had an umbrella that was like UPF 50, and it had like a clamp and a knob that you could tighten, and it fit right on my riptide cart, and I would carry that around, but it kind of got to be a pain in the butt. It was a good idea though. And then I just made it my beach umbrella and then it got trashed. I should get a new one. Anyway, moving on. Hydration. We know about water, right? But please make sure you're starting to drink water before you get really hot and before you start to get heat stroke and you start to pass out and stuff, alright? You want it all before that. So start drinking water in the morning as you're driving to work, while you're getting ready. Start drinking that. Get you get you some uh get you some hydration packs, you know, like not the not the ones that you wear on your back. I'm talking about the uh the uh electrolytes, right? Some of us, some of y'all, some of y'all are plants, or you could add just like salt. But here I'm gonna share with you a recipe that I like to use sometimes. It gets a bit expensive, not gonna lie, especially in this economy, but it works so well, and it I just really like it. And you can like mix and match like different fruits and vegetables, or if you must. I don't really care for drinking vegetables, but whatever. I saw somebody talking about this on the TikToks. This is not my recipe. I got this from somebody, can't remember her uh saying she's a kind of a big creator, anyway. Irrelevant, send you her video if you want me to, but just listen to this, okay? Adrenal cocktail. You have you start with coconut water, that's why I said it can be a bit expensive. The coconut water gives you magnesium and potassium, and these are key electrolytes that work with sodium to help the body retain water, and then magnesium helps the body retain potassium, which helps with cellular absorption and cramp prevention because cramps, muscle cramps come from dehydration. Then you have uh orange juice. Now you can buy the orange juice, you could be bougie and squeeze your own. This is for vitamin C, which helps the body use fluids more efficiently by again. Improving cellular water retention. I looked this all up elsewhere too. This is not just from this girl's TikTok. This is all, I promise. I'm not a healthcare professional by any means, but I did get this from reliable sources, I promise you, or I would not be telling you this. And none of this is like crazy woo-woo ingredients. It's all just regular stuff. Coconut water, OJ. Salt for electrolytes, which is salt is a critical electrolyte that helps your body absorb and retain water at the cellular level. And then finally, we're gonna put in a scoop or two, depending on your label instructions, of collagen peptides. And this is not for skin and nails and hair and stuff like that. It has those benefits, but this is for helping increase skin hydration. It helps combat damage from UVB rays, which we are constantly exposed to. And it also helps with cellular hydration. So though you just make that into a big bottle and then you just drink that throughout the day. It's really good. You don't put a ton of salt, you just put like a little tiny pinch. I bought like some really expensive salt, and it's little pyramids of salt, and I just put one little, one little pyramid in there. Okay, and now, real quick, I'm gonna give you a quick list of things you can substitute fruits and veggies that have a high water content, but also give you those electrolytes, the potassiums, the magnesiums, things like that that help. So here we go. Ready? Watermelon, which I hate, I will never eat watermelon. Strawberries, cantaloupe and honeydew, I also hate. Grapefruit and oranges, bananas for potassium, not for water, cucumbers, celery, tomatoes, zucchini, spinach, and kale, because of course kale. It's always kale. Avocados, delicious. I love an avocado, chia, hemp, flax, and pumpkin seeds all give you those vital nutrients for absorbing water, retaining water, all of those other things that work together. And almonds. So you could just make a smoothie out of all of that. It would probably be kind of gross, only if you just put a little kale. Just kidding. Alright, now let's get into the actual pool stuff. Because I've already been talking for quite a while and I don't think I've really mentioned pools at all. It's okay. So the first thing we have is what we call it's a little thing called chlorine demand. Ever heard of it? Heat increases chlorine loss. Warmer water temperatures increase the amount of waste introduced into the pool by swimmers because people aren't gross. Higher temperatures also speed up disinfectant loss and create conditions that promote faster bacterial growth. Bacteria likes warmth. In the warmer weather, you have higher humidity or uh higher pools and spas lose heat mainly through evaporation, air movement, and thermal radiation from the water's surface. The more people using the pool, the more water is lost through splash out and drag out, which is obviously people splashing water out and carrying it out with them on their bodies or in their swimsuits. And then you have to replace that water with fresh fill water. What does fill water not have? Chlorine. It's also colder, and then it will lower the temperature of the pool or spa water, perpetuating the cycle. Water at the pool surface is always turning into vapor and escaping into the air. That process called evaporation, this process uses energy. The energy needed comes from the water itself, which removes heat from the pool and causes the water temperature to drop, which I kind of explained already. Evaporation is increased by high wind speed, high air temperature, low relative humidity, and high water temperature. As water evaporates from the freshwater must be added to maintain the proper water level. I don't know why I wrote that again, because I already said it just in a different way. For example, my 55,000 gallon pool has a surface area of approximately I didn't measure it, I just guessed, 2100 square feet. So one inch of water loss from evaporation is 1300 gallons, but it's losing more than that because it's leaking. It was losing a thousand gallons a day. Anyway, let's move on. So next we have the UV and index, or just UV rays in general. I don't know why I wrote index. Whatever. Unstabilized disinfectants are highly sensitive to UV radiation from sunlight. Sunlight can destroy up to half of the chlorine in pool water in less than one hour. That's according to the CPO book. The other website said something different. I just stuck with that one. I'm gonna paraphrase from an Arenda article that I used as a source for this information. UV radiation breaks down chlorine through a process known as photolysis. There is a big difference between a pool using chlorine and a pool losing chlorine. In warmer weather, chlorine gets used up faster because it's working harder. There are usually more swimmers, more contaminants, and chemical reactions happen more quickly in warm water. But chlorine loss from sunlight is a separate issue called photolysis. Once cyanuric acid is in the water, the sun protects it. It provides the the sun, oh my god, the sun protection it provides for chlorine has very little to do with the water temperature. So there's two different things happening when the water's warmer. You lose chlorine two different ways. Isn't that fun? So sunlight breaks down unstabilized chlorine very quickly, but combined chlorine is much more resistant and tends to linger in the water far longer than free chlorine, even under direct sunlight. Next we have wind. We're talking about how weather affects the pools. I needed a reminder because I just kind of forgot what I was talking about. It's kidding. Wind blows in pollen, dirt, dust, debris, sand, and all those things all use up free chlorine and contribute to what? Phosphate levels. Diatoms, which are algae, those are airborne. So wind can give you algae. Wind can give you the algae. I'm sorry, algae is already plural. Algae grows under piles of sand. It also grows under piles of phosphate fallout. If the pool was not treated correctly, don't ask me how I know that. Okay, so the wind increases evaporation. And now we have my favorite contribution to ruining pool chemistry, I guess we'll call it. The rain. So now I know there's a few different areas, regions, climates of the US that don't get as much rain as I see in my beautiful, humid, weird state of Florida. We get a lot of rain here, you guys. I don't know, I don't think you guys comprehend. When we say it rains every day at 3 p.m. in the summertime, no one is lying, no one is exaggerating. It liter sometimes like we have to do our routes backwards because it's been three weeks and we haven't been able to do shit at the last like five pools because of a certain route, because it's just it just rains at that certain time every day. Now you have you you put all that rain on top of an already problem pool, and what happens? The algae, right? Okay, so fresh water. What is rain? Fresh water adding fresh water, whether it's from a hose or from you know your the itsy bitsy spider world going down the waterspout. This has caused chemical dilution and the loss of free chlorine. It's all come it all comes back to the phosphates, even though they're not a problem until they're a problem. Oh my god, Andrea, you're crazy. I know. That's why people yell at me on the internet. But I trust, I promise, trust me, I promise I will not lead you astray. Okay. The rain potentially causes or contributes to the formation of chloramines. It's washing things in. It came from the sky. Who live in rainy climates, like Florida, for example, tend to let water out of their pools a lot. I have people where I had to complain to the office, please tell them to stop letting water out every single time it rains. They do not need to let out water every time it rains. I was having to add so much salt to that pool just because they were just kept letting water out. And then salt got expensive, and aqua salt is apparently hard to get right at this moment. So they told them to stop doing that. This also requires the replacement of what other chemicals? Cyaneric acid, calcium, and our friend chlorine. And then we all know about storms, these bring in excessive amounts of wind, rain, and debris. We already talked about all of that, excessive amounts. Then you get the power outages on top of that. Those can last a very long time. This prevents circulation, it prevents filtration. Commercial pools, you need to close them if there's lightning in the area. Get everybody out. Soliability. And then we're getting to the end here. Your high bather load, okay? It's summertime. Kids are home from school. Florida should have pretty much no more tourists, but the kids are home from school. That's the same thing. Okay. Kids and snowbirds, they are the same when it comes to complaints. Yeah, so warm weather brings more people, people bring contaminants with them. This all is gonna use up your chlorine faster. Again, we have the combined chlorine issue. You have ammonia and sweat being added. Ammonia's pee pee. P pee, pee, pee pull, pee in the water. We know this. I said the splash out, drag out. People not only pee in the water, all right. Here's here's a little fun fact for you. People also release fecal matter into the pool water. Involuntarily. I'm not saying that you're walking into the pool and having a diarrhea or or you're sharding on purpose or something. It's just it's just one of those facts of life. This is one of the reasons why we tell people to shower before entering the pool to watch you. Nobody wants to watch you wash your bethill next to the pool. Go in the bathroom for that. But you should do that. Because what I'm about to tell you is pretty gross. So on average, one person. So if you are listening to me talk right now and you are just one person, this applies to you, my friend. I am sorry to tell you. On average, one person carries approximately 0.14 grams of fecal material on them on you. You have it on you right now, you nasty. That is one thirty-fifth of a teaspoon. This gets washed into the water, gets washed off of you into the water because what went into the water when you did? Your butt. Your butt's in the water. And the person next to you, their butt's also in the water. And here's a fun visual. This is what I wanted to get to. Paint 14 grams, because I know everybody wants to know. This is approximately equivalent to five grains of uncooked rice. So picture that. Go ahead, maybe go to your kitchen and get five grains of uncooked rice and put it in your hand. And just look at it. And then think about the fact that maybe there's been about 50 people in the pool that day. If you're at a hotel pool. Or maybe there's been a kid in the pool before you got there. Maybe you're at a pool party, right? And you're at a birthday party, and there's like 25 kids. Kids, uh, it's actually higher for children. This is like an average adult. But here's some little bit of quick math for you. So 10 people equals 50 grains of rice, which is one eighth of a teaspoon. 50 people, if you don't know what that is, good, stay tuned. So 50 people equals 250 grains of rice. That's the equivalent of dookie we're talking about, right? So that's one teaspoon. 100 people equals 500 grains of rice, which is one tablespoon, and a thousand people, which would have to be a pretty big pool and a pretty big resort, but that's a half a cup of doo-doo in the pool. So that's something to think about, and I hope I didn't ruin your next vacation, because I ruined all of my vacations for the rest of my life, just by it being in this industry for you non-Americans. That is one to three ounces or six tablespoons of urine into the water. So that is what I like to call poop soup. You'll never catch me in a hotel pool. I don't know if I said that already, especially not a spa. And then people also introduce non-living organics such as body oils, sunscreens, lotions, and all of those things contribute to chlorine demand. Ever heard of her? She's super niche. And then last but not least, and then I'll leave you guys alone and I will stop screaming in your ear about rice grains. Animals, right? Animals are worse than people. Warm weather brings them as well. You also have insects, bugs. These are attracted to the water because bugs drink water. Everything else drinks water too, by the way. You can't stop it. You can't stop the bees and the birds and the frogs and stuff from drinking it. Frogs and lizards and birds, however, are attracted to the bugs, the insects. I've watched crows eat those Japanese beetles out of the pools. It's kind of fun. Crows are cool. Anyway, they poop all over the place. They leave feces, if you want me to be corporate about it, all over the pool, in the pool, around the pool, on the pool, under the pool, in the water, people step in it. I've seen it. Lizards. Fun fact, lizards poop has a little white speck in it because they don't digest calcium. So if you see a piece of poop with white, it's from a lizard, not a rat. Dogs cause all the same problems as people. I think I said that already, but I meant to say it specifically about dogs. Dogs don't wipe, so I'm sure that that five grains of rice is probably a few more for a dog. And then everybody has a different number for the amount of dogs that equal people. I've heard 50, I've heard 25, like one dog is 50 people, one dog somebody said 25 people. It's it's all different, but I guess if you want to just be like the whole dog years thing, just one dog equals a lot more people than just one person. That's a very scientific way to look at it. Oons are a whole different animal. Animals, dogs, or raccoons. Ooms can carry a roundworm egg called Bayliss Ascaris. The protocol for this is to run the pool for 24 to 48 hours and replace the filter media. So it's not it's impervious to chlorine. Definitely chlorinated. I'm not saying don't, but you're gonna need to continuously run the pool. Rudy's probably gonna hopefully he'll tell me if I got it wrong, is what I'm saying here. So run run the pool to four for my god, run the pool for four run the pool for 24 to 48 hours and then replace all the filter media. The other option is to drain the pool completely. You'll probably just want to go ahead and do a chlorine or an acid wash, maybe, since you already have the pool empty, and then you still need to replace the filter media. You can have the you can uh have you have to get a sample of the feces and send it into I'm not sure where university or maybe there's a place. You can have it tested for the roundworm, but you gotta so if you run commercial pools and you get duck poop or bird poop or raccoon, you gotta you are required to treat it in the same way. If it's what does Rudy say? If it's poo, it's two, if it's runny, it's twenty. So you only need to raise it to two ppm parts per million for animal poop, which I would raise it higher than that. That's just me. But two is is effective to kill most things except for the Baylissiscaris and also Cryptosporidium. And that's it. I'll leave you at that. Hope you guys had fun listening to this, and I hope I didn't affect how any of you eat rice. I hope I did affect how you enter pools because shower first, and that's why you need to tell other people to shower first. I won't talk about it anymore. Thank you for listening. I hope this was helpful. Please let me know anything you want to let me know. Follow the podcast. You can follow me, share everything, like us, leave reviews, leave comments. 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